Several days ago I did a post about the problem I was having getting some Lincoln brand 6011s to strike an arc. Read my prior post for the details.... Today I bought a new box of 6011s. A generic brand from a welding supply store with their brand name on the rods. The rods worked like a charm...! I decided before I would dump the bad box of Lincolns in the garbage, I would try one more idea I had either heard or read about. Took some of the bad rods and before I tried to strike and arc with them I stuck each one in a full water bottle for about 2-3 secs each. Unbelievable.....they worked like some of the best rods I have ever used. Repeated this several times with the same results. Sure some of you must have heard of this before....? Rickzzz