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compression
03-30-2013, 12:32 AM
Hello, there seems to be quite a few people with a 200sx machine around. So my question is, have any of you adapted another style torch to this machine yet? I hear rumor of some sort of adapter but i haven't seen it myself..

Basically im really itching to get a WP-9 or a WP-17 style torch on this machine so i can reach into some tighter spaces and hopefully maneuver the torch a little better. I want to start building exhaust/intake manifolds, along with some other car-fab stuff.

I'm fairly new to tig and any help is appreciated, Here is a project i am currently working on.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/20130328_025814_zps297c0a87.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/20130328_025637_zps8e691a6f.jpg

A little bulky on the torch and this isn't even a very small space

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/20130328_025600_zps28c8a7ad.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/20130328_025447_zpsde8754aa.jpg

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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/20130328_025333_zps2a08403f.jpg

See the kind of tight spaces i have to work with? =(

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/20130330_022053_zps2fbdbc44.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/20130330_022012_zpsba3dfcba.jpg

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Gadget
03-30-2013, 05:52 AM
Hi and welcome to the forum. That's quite a project you have going. I wonder if you could break the tacks at each end of the pipe after fitting to get access to more welding area, then re-weld the pipes back afterwards. A bit of planning on the location of the breaks would allow the final welding to be done in a more open part of the pipe.

Be sure to post a bit about yourself in the introduce yourself section so we can get to know you. Also, keep an eye out for the next contest here. The odds of winning a great new Longevity machine are very good.
Dan

Cope
03-30-2013, 09:38 AM
That is an impressive project. But please strap that cylinder to the table leg!

WookieWelding
03-30-2013, 02:50 PM
clean your stainless before welding

compression
03-30-2013, 06:49 PM
I will for sure brush and clean the stainless prior to welding, i am going to get a gas lens also before i attempt to do that actual welding. I was looking into a jumbo pyrex cup/gas lens, but i want to make sure i know which torch ill be using so i dont waste money buying it for this torch and replacing it shortly after.

To make the welding easier,i am going to tack it all together and remove the entire tube from the 1st and 3rd cylinder ( or 4th and 5th ) weld them together separately that will give plenty of clearance ( i hope ) to weld the the others still on the manifold, then ill just have to weld the tubes to that head flange and the collector. But i would love to get a 9 or 17 style torch on this welder because its much more comfortable for me.

compression
03-30-2013, 06:52 PM
I also called a few days ago and spoke to Daniel, he was supposed to email me of a known working adapter, but i never recieved the email. No big deal their customer service was been excellent so far, so i will just call back on Monday and ask again!

Switchless
03-30-2013, 09:27 PM
I also called a few days ago and spoke to Daniel, he was supposed to email me of a known working adapter, but i never recieved the email. No big deal their customer service was been excellent so far, so i will just call back on Monday and ask again!

I am supposed to get my 200sx on Tuesday. Since I never leave anything "stock", I'm sure if there isn't a standard adapter, I'm make one. FWIW, I couldn't stand to be forced to have both hands on the mig torch, or being confined by the size/shape of the gun. I got rid of the clunky handle, shaft and trigger, and made a mini pencil type torch with a remote switch so I don't need to hold the torch and prop with the other hand.

WookieWelding
03-31-2013, 12:14 AM
you do not need any fancy cup You are not welding titanium just get a Normal gas lens with a #6 cup
really the speciallity cup are for special applications IIRC Ti
I weld on High Ni and stainless all day long for the US Govt and all i use is a standard Gas Lens with #6 cup unless i am welding on Ti that is all that is ever on the end of my torch
my stuff has to pass Xray
I would look into a 17 with a stubby kit IIRC 20 consumables if you are staying gas cooled
or a wp 20 water cooled and call it a day if you dont have a cooler just use tap water and drain in yard
the wp26 and 18 have there place but not for what you are doing big and bulky
the wp9 will also work up to 150 amps depending on who makes it IIRC CK
btw the 17 and 9 share the same power cable so you can switch out just the head and use either torch body on the same power cable

once you figure out your machine side delema there are some of the options

WookieWelding
03-31-2013, 12:25 AM
I will for sure brush and clean the stainless prior to welding, i am going to get a gas lens also before i attempt to do that actual welding. I was looking into a jumbo pyrex cup/gas lens, but i want to make sure i know which torch ill be using so i dont waste money buying it for this torch and replacing it shortly after.

To make the welding easier,i am going to tack it all together and remove the entire tube from the 1st and 3rd cylinder ( or 4th and 5th ) weld them together separately that will give plenty of clearance ( i hope ) to weld the the others still on the manifold, then ill just have to weld the tubes to that head flange and the collector. But i would love to get a 9 or 17 style torch on this welder because its much more comfortable for me.

wipe those cast elbows down with denatured alcohol the get the junk off of them then wire brush
you will be surprised how much junk comes off

compression
03-31-2013, 03:41 PM
you do not need any fancy cup You are not welding titanium just get a Normal gas lens with a #6 cup
really the speciallity cup are for special applications IIRC Ti
I weld on High Ni and stainless all day long for the US Govt and all i use is a standard Gas Lens with #6 cup unless i am welding on Ti that is all that is ever on the end of my torch
my stuff has to pass Xray
I would look into a 17 with a stubby kit IIRC 20 consumables if you are staying gas cooled
or a wp 20 water cooled and call it a day if you dont have a cooler just use tap water and drain in yard
the wp26 and 18 have there place but not for what you are doing big and bulky
the wp9 will also work up to 150 amps depending on who makes it IIRC CK
btw the 17 and 9 share the same power cable so you can switch out just the head and use either torch body on the same power cable

once you figure out your machine side delema there are some of the options

Wow you can run a water cooler torch like that? Nice! Could I just rig up an electric water pump with and old used radiator/fan?

compression
03-31-2013, 09:10 PM
M14 1 5 M16 1 5 Cable Joint Change TIG Welding Torch | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/M14-1-5-M16-1-5-Cable-Joint-Change-TIG-welding-Torch-/400215190035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2eaf2a13)

here is an m14-m16 adapter , you will be able to use their torches, and possibly eastwood torches as well! ( i hope )

WP 9 SR 9 TIG Welding Torch Air Cooled WP9 125A 12FEET | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WP-9-SR-9-Tig-welding-torch-Air-cooled-WP9-125A-12Feet-/170670988925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bcc89e7d)

WookieWelding
04-01-2013, 05:40 PM
M14 1 5 M16 1 5 Cable Joint Change TIG Welding Torch | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/M14-1-5-M16-1-5-Cable-Joint-Change-TIG-welding-Torch-/400215190035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2eaf2a13)

here is an m14-m16 adapter , you will be able to use their torches, and possibly eastwood torches as well! ( i hope )

WP 9 SR 9 TIG Welding Torch Air Cooled WP9 125A 12FEET | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WP-9-SR-9-Tig-welding-torch-Air-cooled-WP9-125A-12Feet-/170670988925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bcc89e7d)
That would work for that torch
I would look for a joint change to 5/8 18 rh so you can run a standard 1 piece power cable if you can get longevity to sign off on it just change the machine fitting with a barbed 5/8 18 rh and call it done the quality of the CK and weldtec and weldcraft torches speaks for themselves weldtec especially by being able to carry more amps in a wp9 or wp 20 along with ck

arandall
04-01-2013, 06:55 PM
Wow! That's a complex manifold. Are you trying for equal length runners?

compression
04-01-2013, 07:12 PM
Thats what i would like to do, maybe get an m16 female brass cap, and drill/tap the other side for 5/8's so the flare mates with the machines female connector for a 1 piece hose like this

CK CK9-12-RSF FX Torch Pkg 125A Gas Fx. 12-1/2' 1 Piece SuperFlex - Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/CK-CK9-12-RSF-Torch-Piece-SuperFlex/dp/B007MD48WY/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364857866&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=ck9+tig+torch)

Should be extremely simple right? I just dont have a torch + to try out and i would hate to purchase one to experiment with.

Just a normal 24y/o guy with a wife and two kids, fairly low income =\

compression
04-01-2013, 07:12 PM
Wow! That's a complex manifold. Are you trying for equal length runners?

Yea thats what i am aiming to do, and i need room for a 4" downpipe to fit through the runners!

TwistedSteel
04-04-2013, 09:09 PM
I believe that torch has a 3/8" flare fitting if it is the same as my CK torch.

compression
04-05-2013, 12:32 PM
I read somewhere in the forum longevity say the power cable was an m14 but after re reading thry must have meant on the torch side. Because that adapter wont do me any good the machine allready has the m16 male fitting.

I just need to get the female coupler 3/8-24 m16x1.5 but i cannot find it anywhere. Somebody should start producing them!

WookieWelding
04-06-2013, 09:22 PM
on my weldcraft and CK AirCooled its
on the torch end yes its 3/8s
its 5/8 on the machine side of the power cable
you can use a standard wp17 dinse adapter (17and9 use same adapter) then plumb that to your metric fitting for gas

compression
04-06-2013, 11:29 PM
Maybe i hit the wrong button? my post didnt show.. Where would a dinse adapter hook on the machine? Forgive my ignorance i have never seen one. The torch i was looking at was an aircooled wp-9 with a superflex cable, 3/8-24 male flare fitting on the end of the hose that plugs into the machine, i believe its a 1 piece (it better be!).

WookieWelding
04-07-2013, 01:02 AM
this is a dinse adapter for a 1 piece power cable for a wp9 or wp17 both use the same size powercable
WP 17 SR 17 TIG Torch Cable Joint Change 5 8" 18 Female Part No CKZ5003 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/400275240608?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)

TwistedSteel
04-07-2013, 01:45 AM
Ok folks, I found an adapter that works. It is a 5/8" by 3/8" adapter that airgas sells. Airgas - RAD64005406 - RadnorŪ 105Z57 Power Cable Adapter (http://www.airgas.com/product/inquiry/RAD64005406)

Cope
04-07-2013, 06:02 AM
Western makes a lot of adapters. They probably have one that is less bulky.

TwistedSteel
04-07-2013, 03:28 PM
Thanks for sharing cope. While everyone was asking and throwing around ideas, I went and found what we need. Hope it helps others to be able to use a mini torch and any torch they would like to use. It is not about working with what you got, more like work with what you like :-)

compression
04-07-2013, 08:53 PM
Wait 3/8-5/8? Shouldnt it be 3/8 - m16?

it also says dc polarity, it will also work on ac correct?

WookieWelding
04-07-2013, 10:08 PM
Wait 3/8-5/8? Shouldnt it be 3/8 - m16?

it also says dc polarity, it will also work on ac correct?
the power block will work on any current airgas as many sites did not fill out the description correctly

WookieWelding
04-07-2013, 10:09 PM
Wait 3/8-5/8? Shouldnt it be 3/8 - m16?

it also says dc polarity, it will also work on ac correct?
guess m16 is close enough to 5/8s to work

WookieWelding
04-07-2013, 10:10 PM
Ok folks, I found an adapter that works. It is a 5/8" by 3/8" adapter that airgas sells. Airgas - RAD64005406 - RadnorŪ 105Z57 Power Cable Adapter (http://www.airgas.com/product/inquiry/RAD64005406)

how are you getting that to seal since it is designed to seal on the tapered seat ?

TwistedSteel
04-08-2013, 12:13 AM
how are you getting that to seal since it is designed to seal on the tapered seat ?

I guess since it isn't high pressure maybe? I just tightened it hand tight. The threads are so close to the metric version. I have been welding with it like this without issues with my torch sucking oxygen in.

I don't see why it wouldn't work for ac also.

compression
04-08-2013, 02:02 PM
I guess since it isn't high pressure maybe? I just tightened it hand tight. The threads are so close to the metric version. I have been welding with it like this without issues with my torch sucking oxygen in.

I don't see why it wouldn't work for ac also.
Wonder if you could just chase the threads with an m16x1.5 tap just to make sure theres no damage to the machines fitting.

WookieWelding
04-08-2013, 07:45 PM
really wish they would ditch that metric fitting and just put a standard inert gas fitting 5/8 18 female on the front like they have put in the back of the unit and just use a dinse adapter for the torch
You could replace the machine fitting with AW-15A 1/4" NPT Male to B-Size Female RH Inert Gas B-Size that would give you a 5/8s and plumb the gas line to the 1/4 inch thread or this one is 1/8 thread to female 5/8s inert gas AW-152A 1/8" NPT Male to B-Size Female RH Inert Gas B-Size or if you want the 3/8s A fitting it would be AW-12A 1/8" NPT Male to A-Size Female RH Inert Gas A-Size


For a none adapter use with standard Air cooled power cable you could just replace the metric fitting with one of the above from western Industries most likely the back end of the fitting is 1/4 inch at the gas hose inside the machine
If it was my machine i would opt for the AW-15A 1/4" NPT Male to B-Size Female RH Inert Gas B-Size and replace the machine fitting with this (should be a Direct swap out )
and for you A size torches get a B to A adapter the adapter literally has no foot print since it sits inside the female 5/8s and is not longer then the fitting that it is adapting i know they make them i have one just can not find it in the western catalog

WookieWelding
04-08-2013, 07:47 PM
Ok folks, I found an adapter that works. It is a 5/8" by 3/8" adapter that airgas sells. Airgas - RAD64005406 - RadnorŪ 105Z57 Power Cable Adapter (http://www.airgas.com/product/inquiry/RAD64005406)

ok you have a A size 3/8s power cable on that ck torch (A-SIZE: 3/8”-24 UNFRH Connection: CGA-030 For Inert Gases)
most are b size iirc 5/8s (B-SIZE: 5/8”-18 UNFRH Connection: CGA-032 For Inert Gases)
FYI they make a adapter that threads into the b size female and reduces it to a A size female

shotgunjoe
04-08-2013, 07:52 PM
Good job fellas, im likin where this thread is going

WookieWelding
04-08-2013, 08:08 PM
I mean if you ever wanted to go water cooled it would be a simple dinse adapter for the water cooled power cable and just hook up the gas line from the torch to the newly replaced 5/8s fitting on the machine
so you can easily change between the air cooled and water cooled without adapters galore

shotgunjoe
04-09-2013, 09:00 AM
So withnbthat dinse adapter, it plugs directly into our machines, and standard torches plug right to it? Is that correct? No cross threading, or other funkyness?

compression
04-09-2013, 07:27 PM
Where does the dinse plug into on our machine?..

Unless your talking about the stick slot, which appears to be some sort of a dinse.

WookieWelding
04-09-2013, 08:05 PM
Where does the dinse plug into on our machine?..

Unless your talking about the stick slot, which appears to be some sort of a dinse.
the stick slot which is a dinse 50 is tied to the torch fitting via a bus bar so they are powered from the same source
so you would just plug in a dinse to water cooled adapter like this one on ebay or get the miller one
this is the ebay adapter from river weld to the WP20 to dinse the Wp18 is the same adapter WP 18 SR 18 Water Cooled TIG Torch Cable Joint Change | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/400178768872?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) you would plug that into the stick terminal and replace the torch fitting with the 5/8 18 i posted earlier from western ent with that setup you can run any standard torch configuration with ease

compression
04-14-2013, 02:53 PM
Stardard torch plug right into longevity 200sx! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6xymUKxF80)

I made a video of this torch i have just literally plugging straight into the machine, the threads arent ideal but they offer a perfect seal for the gas, and im not expert on the dinse connection sizes but it twists right in and locks, so all should be good! i need to refill the argon and wait for my gas lens and all that good stuff, went with 2% lanthenated tungsten to try.



http://youtu.be/v6xymUKxF80

WookieWelding
04-14-2013, 07:47 PM
Stardard torch plug right into longevity 200sx! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6xymUKxF80)

I made a video of this torch i have just literally plugging straight into the machine, the threads arent ideal but they offer a perfect seal for the gas, and im not expert on the dinse connection sizes but it twists right in and locks, so all should be good! i need to refill the argon and wait for my gas lens and all that good stuff, went with 2% lanthenated tungsten to try.



http://youtu.be/v6xymUKxF80
Can you post a part number and vendor so others that search can find that info

compression
04-14-2013, 09:18 PM
12' WP 9 TIG Welding Torch USA Weldcraft Compatible | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-WP-9-Tig-Welding-Torch-USA-Weldcraft-Compatible-/140397996201?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b05f68a9)

80$ Shipped, ebay but its from usaweld, or htp.
I couldn't tell you about the dinse fitting seeing as it was mistakingly shipped with my order i believe, but it looked to be the exact size as the Stinger connections that come with this machine.

The gas fitting IS a little LOOSE on the threads while tightening, but it does not bind, just give it a LITTLE snug to seal the gas.

I haven't had a chance to actually try this out yet , my consumables haven't come in yet for this torch. But the gas flows out nicely, thats about all i can verify at this point.

compression
04-14-2013, 09:25 PM
That also means running a watercooled torch is that much easier as well! Assuming the gas fitting is the same, and you have a cooler ( or clean tap source for the cheap-asses like me ).

TwistedSteel
04-14-2013, 10:28 PM
Wookie, you said it is a dinse 50, but I am pretty certain mine is a 25. Its a mini dinse right? I like your setup much better compression. I am going to get that setup asap. Thanks

Gamble
04-16-2013, 03:05 PM
Guys, I had one made locally. They emailed me and said you can buy them on ebay now.

Longevity 160sx 200SX WP9 TIG Torch Upgrade Made in USA Weldcraft | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Longevity-160sx-200sx-WP9-Tig-Torch-Upgrade-MADE-IN-USA-Weldcraft-/200916321691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec78bc59b)


Now if someone can make me a SCC pedal and remote amperage knob for my longevity I'll be one happy MFer!

Steve123
04-16-2013, 05:37 PM
For those who dont want to install a bus bar to link the stick and tig power on the inside of the machine, or who dont want to use a non-metric, "almost" fitting (which I didnt know could work), Riverweld does make a power cable that fits exactly, an M16x.15 by 3/8x24 cable. The price probably ended up being the same; I paid $40 for the cable and another $40 or so at my local welding store for the WP9 torch, but now I have a small, light torch, and I can save my 26 style torch and hose for heavier stuff and a spare.
In case my new hose falls apart, though, its nice to know there are other solutions out there.

Gamble
04-16-2013, 06:54 PM
The bus bar is installed already. No need to open the machine at all.

WookieWelding
04-16-2013, 08:59 PM
Guys, I had one made locally. They emailed me and said you can buy them on ebay now.

Longevity 160sx 200SX WP9 TIG Torch Upgrade Made in USA Weldcraft | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Longevity-160sx-200sx-WP9-Tig-Torch-Upgrade-MADE-IN-USA-Weldcraft-/200916321691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec78bc59b)


Now if someone can make me a SCC pedal and remote amperage knob for my longevity I'll be one happy MFer!
the scc thing is most likely not going to happen i have been trying to get a scc for my tigweld 250 for a long time

compression
04-16-2013, 10:36 PM
For those who dont want to install a bus bar to link the stick and tig power on the inside of the machine, or who dont want to use a non-metric, "almost" fitting (which I didnt know could work), Riverweld does make a power cable that fits exactly, an M16x.15 by 3/8x24 cable. The price probably ended up being the same; I paid $40 for the cable and another $40 or so at my local welding store for the WP9 torch, but now I have a small, light torch, and I can save my 26 style torch and hose for heavier stuff and a spare.
In case my new hose falls apart, though, its nice to know there are other solutions out there.


That video i posted is me opening the box, and plugging it straight in.. the threads arent perfect, but the one gamble linked, is the torch produced specifically for THIS MACHINE, and the superflex hose is probably the best thing i have done, that standard heavy power cord makes my hand very unsteady trying to hold the torch at the correct angle when it feels like somebody is pulling on the powercord because it is so heavy!, a little ck9 with a super flex hose, like that one , makes the torch feel so light you can maneuver the torch so freely.

compression
04-16-2013, 11:29 PM
From the factory, the bus bar that is in all of the 160 200 sx machines.


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/mxdawg121/uploadfromtaptalk1365429952976_zps48cad8a2.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/mxdawg121/media/uploadfromtaptalk1365429952976_zps48cad8a2.jpg.htm l)

shotgunjoe
04-18-2013, 09:54 AM
This thread needs to be stickied...

Gamble
04-18-2013, 12:19 PM
Emailed SCC. Not going to happen. At least I got a sweet torch!

WookieWelding
04-18-2013, 07:08 PM
Emailed SCC. Not going to happen. At least I got a sweet torch!
that sucks i have been buggin them for over a year about pedals for longevity
they make a bad ass pedal for just about any other machine

compression
04-19-2013, 08:50 AM
How difficult would it be to adapt something this? How many wires does that pedal take?

Gamble
04-19-2013, 09:09 AM
Pedal has 5 wires. It's not the amount of wire, but what size POT is in there. The switch inside the pedal is different than the rest. So it will take some thinking.

compression
04-19-2013, 06:57 PM
Nonsense, just hook it up and hope for the best!..

But in all seriousness, what is POT? potentiometer? (sp?)

So this machine takes a total of 5 wires as well, split between two separate ports, the wiring shouldn't be too difficult. But is it any way compatible?

tigqk
04-21-2013, 01:04 AM
I don't have the 200 sx, but the 200pi and one of the things I see on all the longevity torches that I am changing on mine that makes the torch feel stiff is the pvc covering for the leads, the zip up denim ones on ebay are about $11.00 bucks each and free postage, and leather are about double that, but a good resolution to pvc.I set down some hot rods a couple of times on the covering of mine and it has worn through in a few places so time to change them out.

BucketObolts
04-21-2013, 01:10 PM
I just burned through that PVC in a spot. Luckily it did not damage the hoses. I am going to look into a sleeve. Thanks for the tip!


I don't have the 200 sx, but the 200pi and one of the things I see on all the longevity torches that I am changing on mine that makes the torch feel stiff is the pvc covering for the leads, the zip up denim ones on ebay are about $11.00 bucks each and free postage, and leather are about double that, but a good resolution to pvc.I set down some hot rods a couple of times on the covering of mine and it has worn through in a few places so time to change them out.

Gamble
05-23-2013, 07:48 AM
Found a torch upgrade on ebay
Usaweld Upgrade TIG Torch for Longevity 160sx 200SX WP17 WP 17 Made in USA | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/USAWeld-Upgrade-Tig-Torch-for-Longevity-160sx-200sx-WP17-WP-17-MADE-IN-USA-/171034429184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d2724700)

Cope
05-23-2013, 08:05 AM
Found a torch upgrade on ebay
Usaweld Upgrade TIG Torch for Longevity 160sx 200SX WP17 WP 17 Made in USA | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/USAWeld-Upgrade-Tig-Torch-for-Longevity-160sx-200sx-WP17-WP-17-MADE-IN-USA-/171034429184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d2724700)

They will also quote other lengths and torches.

Ryantowry81
11-20-2013, 03:58 PM
what are you guys doing for triggers with the WP 17? just using the foot pedal? i was wondering if there was a way to run a WP17 without the pedal or trigger like you would with a lift arc or scratch arc system.

Gamble
11-20-2013, 04:16 PM
I always use a foot pedal.

Blange
01-19-2014, 11:23 AM
I might be offering a water cooled torch like a wp-20 conversion that will thread onto the front of the longevity 200 sx! After I get my new 200sx on Tuesday 1/21 I will see if its feasible to do! I think it will work, but I have to move some fittings in the torch head so the gas, power & water all go to the right place & still using the original longevity hose! Later Brian!

Ryantowry81
01-20-2014, 09:05 AM
Found a torch upgrade on ebay
Usaweld Upgrade TIG Torch for Longevity 160sx 200SX WP17 WP 17 Made in USA | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/USAWeld-Upgrade-Tig-Torch-for-Longevity-160sx-200sx-WP17-WP-17-MADE-IN-USA-/171034429184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d2724700)

I just purchased one of these torches and it is a very nice unit so far, we will see how well it lasts. Their shipping was extremely fast also.