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Questions about the tigweld 160dx



hog
06-18-2012, 05:20 PM
i bought the 160 dx and cant find any kind of owners manual so i gotta ask a few questions. first the digital readout doesnt work in tig mode, is it supposed to??? Second when leads are pluged in for stick mode they are in dcen, no polarity switch?? i havent checked polarity in tig dc mode yet.

KHK
06-18-2012, 06:44 PM
For a manual goto the Longevity's main web site and click on resources then click on manuals & forms. The manual is the same as the 200DX accept for the amps.

hog
06-18-2012, 07:52 PM
I tried again and the display works with the pedal on amps readout.

undercut
06-18-2012, 09:30 PM
I tried again and the display works with the pedal on amps readout. Hi Hog, I'm interested in potentially buying this machine myself. Can you not switch the leads for stick welding to achieve either DCEN or DCEP? I hear it is so new, the manual doesn't exist yet. How are you finding its performance? How's the stick performance? I'm trying to find out whether it has "Arc Force" and "Surge Current". Looking forward to hearing more about your experience with this product!

hog
06-19-2012, 06:13 AM
The leads are on dinse connectors and switch easy, but the way their marked ground and stick its dcen . i checked it with a voltmeter to be sure. The machine works great on 110, i dont have a 220 plug yet. i tried ac and dc tig and cant believe how good they work on 110. Tried the stick mode with 3/32 6011 with no problems at all. My only complaint is NO owners manual, i dont know duty cycle or how many amps it does on 110 vs 220, otherwise it is a impressive machine for the money. Its half the price of a diversion 165 with way more options,like 110/220, included foot pedal, adjustable post and pre flow, ac balance, and stick mode. It comes with a standard 17 torch thats easily changed to longer lead or different torch.

BucketObolts
06-19-2012, 09:16 AM
Good info there Hog. I am going to be in the market for a TIG machine in a few months. I was curious how well these do on 110 since I don't have a 220 plug either.
When you get a chance let us know how thick of material you can TIG (myself I am interested in how thick of steel) do you think it can do 3/16?



The leads are on dinse connectors and switch easy, but the way their marked ground and stick its dcen . i checked it with a voltmeter to be sure. The machine works great on 110, i dont have a 220 plug yet. i tried ac and dc tig and cant believe how good they work on 110. Tried the stick mode with 3/32 6011 with no problems at all. My only complaint is NO owners manual, i dont know duty cycle or how many amps it does on 110 vs 220, otherwise it is a impressive machine for the money. Its half the price of a diversion 165 with way more options,like 110/220, included foot pedal, adjustable post and pre flow, ac balance, and stick mode. It comes with a standard 17 torch thats easily changed to longer lead or different torch.

BucketObolts
06-19-2012, 09:20 AM
Another question. The title of the thread asks about the 160DX, I didn't see one listed. Do you have the 160SX?

undercut
06-19-2012, 10:54 AM
The leads are on dinse connectors and switch easy, but the way their marked ground and stick its dcen . i checked it with a voltmeter to be sure. The machine works great on 110, i dont have a 220 plug yet. i tried ac and dc tig and cant believe how good they work on 110. Tried the stick mode with 3/32 6011 with no problems at all. My only complaint is NO owners manual, i dont know duty cycle or how many amps it does on 110 vs 220, otherwise it is a impressive machine for the money. Its half the price of a diversion 165 with way more options,like 110/220, included foot pedal, adjustable post and pre flow, ac balance, and stick mode. It comes with a standard 17 torch thats easily changed to longer lead or different torch. I just noticed that the thread title is 160dx too. Given your description, I'm pretty certain you have the 160sx. Thanks for the write-up. For stick, you'll either need a beefy 110 supply or 220 to get into 1/8 eletrodes. I would THINK you should be able to ignore the labels on the dinse connectors for stick and switch them around for DCEP but yeah, I wouldn't do it without confirmation. I've got questions on duty cycle too. I really don't want to wait until the unit decides it's too hot before letting it cool down.

LONGEVITY
06-19-2012, 11:42 AM
Hi There,

It is best you speak with Tim about the TIGWELD 160sx so he can explain it fully. Call our number 877 566 4462 and press extension 210.

Thanks

hog
06-19-2012, 11:44 AM
160 sx , my mistake. i got a 220 outlet to try now. i assume the ac/dc switch gives ac on stick mode also ??

undercut
06-19-2012, 11:57 AM
160 sx , my mistake. i got a 220 outlet to try now. i assume the ac/dc switch gives ac on stick mode also ?? 220v is going to open the door for more power at your fingertips! Did you get a new service put in, put in new wiring into your box or tap into your dryer outlet?

hog
06-19-2012, 05:26 PM
220v is going to open the door for more power at your fingertips! Did you get a new service put in, put in new wiring into your box or tap into your dryer outlet?

i already had a 40 amp 220 line,just had to change plugs on it to match the one one the 160sx. works great on 110, but i hear the duty cycle is better on 220.

undercut
06-19-2012, 05:30 PM
i already had a 40 amp 220 line,just had to change plugs on it to match the one one the 160sx. works great on 110, but i hear the duty cycle is better on 220. Most definitely should improve the duty cycle. If, for whatever reason, I get hold of a manual, I'll keep you mind.

hog
06-19-2012, 05:51 PM
Most definitely should improve the duty cycle. If, for whatever reason, I get hold of a manual, I'll keep you mind. Nadine emailed me a brochure/manual, 60% duty cycle at 160 amps, it will go 140 amps stick mode on 110 or 220. twin fans that stay running about 1 minute after shutdown, seems to be a well made machine.

undercut
06-19-2012, 06:25 PM
Nadine emailed me a brochure/manual, 60% duty cycle at 160 amps, it will go 140 amps stick mode on 110 or 220. twin fans that stay running about 1 minute after shutdown, seems to be a well made machine. Apparently it will stick weld up to 160A as long as your 220V circuit has enough juice. That puts it pretty firmly in 1/8" electrode territory. I haven't heard about the delay in the fan so perhaps I haven't seen that brochure. How do I get a hold of one? (or get a hold of Nadine ...)

hog
06-19-2012, 07:35 PM
the fan delay isnt in the brochure, and yes the display shows a max of 158 amps in stick mode. Nadine is in shipping dept at Longevity. My uncle is a retired welder and tried the dc tig mode today on a gun bolt handle and was impressed enough to order one himself.

undercut
06-19-2012, 08:25 PM
the fan delay isnt in the brochure, and yes the display shows a max of 158 amps in stick mode. Cool! I know this is primarily a TIG machine but if I get it, it will see a lot of stick action as well.
Nadine is in shipping dept at Longevity. My uncle is a retired welder and tried the dc tig mode today on a gun bolt handle and was impressed enough to order one himself. Very nice. Now I just need to overcome the small issue of how to pay for one ...

WookieWelding
06-26-2012, 06:11 AM
so did they change the tig torch fitting to something standard ? IIRC a dinse

undercut
06-26-2012, 08:41 PM
so did they change the tig torch fitting to something standard ? IIRC a dinse Work clamp is a dinse. TIG torch connection requires a 19mm wrench to connect it to the welder.

WookieWelding
06-27-2012, 02:16 AM
so its a gas pass thru who knows what connector .. can i use a standard wp9-17 power cable on it ? or am i stuck using the longevity Tig Torch

undercut
06-27-2012, 10:57 AM
so its a gas pass thru who knows what connector .. can i use a standard wp9-17 power cable on it ? or am i stuck using the longevity Tig Torch That, I'm not sure of. I've only seen the video. It looks like a mono-cable for power and gas for the torch. In the video, it only mentions the size of the wrench to tighten, nothing else. I don't think there is a manual for this product yet - at least not on the website.