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Ideas for welding projects for school kids?



Bluesman
02-18-2010, 01:12 PM
Anyone have any ideas for a project for students to build? We have built a shooting house, a few trailors, made a few tools, yard art etc. but if there are any ideas we would be glad to try something new.

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I have some students that are much further advanced than their classmates are so difficulty of fabrication wouldn't be that much of an issue cause the more advanced students would be doing the difficult welds and the easier welds would be delegated to the students that are still a little green.

tking
02-18-2010, 01:29 PM
Don't know if this would be of interest to your situation, but I'd like to build one.

Tube_Bender (http://www.gottrikes.com/Tube_Bender.htm)

Give us your thoughts.

Toad

KHK
02-18-2010, 01:39 PM
Looks like a fun project. I like the roll around feature.

Sasquach
02-18-2010, 01:41 PM
more of suggestion than ideas.

get the word out to local farmers that you are wanting projects for students. build them custom implements for the cost of materials, win for the farmer and a win for the school.

if aluminum is part of the curriculum, custom aluminum boats have great value and recouping material expense will be easy. i've seen many trade school boats, large and small. maybe try a pirogue first, in aluminum they sell fast.

there are many individuals and companies that will support the school. just get the word out and you will have a waiting list for projects.

perhaps let the students be involved from design, material procurement to the final sale.

thank you for teaching
good luck

Bluesman
02-18-2010, 01:49 PM
I wouldn't mind building one but we already have a floor mounted bender that will bend square or round tubing. We also have an attachment on it that will put "twists" in flat bar (not sure what the real name for that is but it is used for things like decorative gates and things)...

We used the bender to bend 3/8" keystock to make the tie down anchor points for the trailor we built as a class project.

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more of suggestion than ideas.

get the word out to local farmers that you are wanting projects for students. build them custom implements for the cost of materials, win for the farmer and a win for the school.

if aluminum is part of the curriculum, custom aluminum boats have great value and recouping material expense will be easy. i've seen many trade school boats, large and small. maybe try a pirogue first, in aluminum they sell fast.

there are many individuals and companies that will support the school. just get the word out and you will have a waiting list for projects.

perhaps let the students be involved from design, material procurement to the final sale.

thank you for teaching
good luck
We've done some repairs for local folks this year. I wish I had the equipment to put the bends/and rolls in the aluminum that we would need to build the boats... I would love to build myself a boat and I'm sure the kids would want to build them one too. Might give us an opportunity to try that tig out.
:-D

Where would you find the plans for the boats you are talking about?

Sasquach
02-18-2010, 02:05 PM
plans mostly will be for wood construction but can easily be modified for aluminum construction.

this would be a good start, small with no complicated bends or forming
free plans for a canoe (http://www.bateau2.com/free/cheapcanoe.htm)

free boat plans
Free boat plans from Bateau (http://www.bateau.com/freeplans.php)
Free boat plans, online boat plan sources, and free CAD boat drawing file downloads : the Boat Design and Boatbuilding Directory (http://boatdesign.net/Directory/Boat_Plans/Free_Boat_Plans/)
FREE BOAT PLANS, Boat Plans at Svenson's (http://svensons.com/boat/)

i'm going to save myself some time here. google with these key words and you will be overwhelmed with plans and ideas.
boat plans free
boat plans aluminum
boat plans stitch and glue
boat plans for sale
boat plans plywood

good luck

bhardy501
02-19-2010, 03:59 PM
http://www.metalcrafttools.com/englishwheel.html (http://www.metalcrafttools.com/englishwheel.html) These English wheel plans are really cool. i built this and added a planishing hammer. If you have access to any machining equipment then you can do the wheels for it to.

bhardy501
02-19-2010, 04:02 PM
http://www.metalcrafttools.com/images/billhardy.jpg

Kiwimike
02-19-2010, 08:40 PM
I like that design. It may become one of my many projects, not that I need anymore and I hope my wife doesn't find out.

bhardy501
02-20-2010, 08:06 AM
It was a lot of fun to build. The upper wheel is 10"x3" 4140 steel (I think, been a long time since I built it) as are the lower wheels. You need someone with a CNC to cut the appropriate radiuses on the lower wheels. I havent learned to do much on it but I did learn that it will pinch the %$^& out of you. You can roll your finger right up in it if not careful.

Kiwimike
02-20-2010, 12:41 PM
Yeah it looks like something I could have some close encounters of the hard kind with.
I guarantee if you mashed them once you will get a little wiser the second time.
I'm a tad accident prone and only have one good arm to work with.

matteh99
02-20-2010, 01:10 PM
When I was in HS we made a hand truck. It worked pretty well and was a decent project. A bit simple but it worked.

What about something like a gocart?

Kiwimike
02-20-2010, 01:34 PM
What it comes down to is this; If you have a project that shoots something or they can race, it will be a hit with the students and not so popular with the teachers.

Makethegun
04-04-2010, 06:53 AM
How much time do you have to complete a project? Is it for a group project or individual?

I am jealous, I wish I could have taken welding when I went to school. :-)

Did you already find some good projects?

Bluesman
04-04-2010, 07:15 AM
How much time do you have to complete a project? Is it for a group project or individual?

I am jealous, I wish I could have taken welding when I went to school. :-)

Did you already find some good projects?
Time is really not a factor since whatever one class doesn't finish the next one will. If we don't finish something before the end of the school year, it will be there in August.twothumbsup

We are about to build another trailer right now though. It is going to be a 6.5 ' X 12' with a side ramp and rear ramp.

Freddytk421
04-07-2010, 08:21 PM
All you need is a flux-capacitor, 1.21 jiggawatts and a stainless steel car. I can send you the plans if you want. laughingicon

Bluesman
04-07-2010, 08:50 PM
All you need is a flux-capacitor, 1.21 jiggawatts and a stainless steel car. I can send you the plans if you want. laughingicon
What the hell? Freddy, it is puff, puff, pass.... NOT puff, puff, puff, puff, puff, pass...GreenSmoking

Freddytk421
04-07-2010, 09:38 PM
You got me pegged :rolleyes: I guess I watched Back To The Future one time too many as a kid. What about some hog traps? We can eat those. I don't know if you have a problem with those where you live but in Texas we have feral hogs all over.

Bluesman
04-08-2010, 07:16 AM
You got me pegged :rolleyes: I guess I watched Back To The Future one time too many as a kid. What about some hog traps? We can eat those. I don't know if you have a problem with those where you live but in Texas we have feral hogs all over.
Yeah, we have wild hogs everywhere. We have been catching/shooting several this year already. Actually working on building a few traps now. Do you have any trap plans? I was wanting to look at a few before we got too far into building one because I want the trap mechanism to be the best as well as overall trap design.

Scott Hightower
06-13-2010, 06:30 AM
Sounds strange but lawnmower racing is taking off in the country. I bet you could find someone to donate an old riding lawnmower to your cause. There is plenty of info online as far as the fab work required but basically they will be welding up a new subframe, some steering fab and welding, and perhaps some sheet metal fab work.

It could be fun and they could take turns taking it for a spin.

Scott
Fab Manager
Welders360 (http://www.welders360.com/)

SICFabrications
09-01-2010, 12:36 AM
cattle guards, round bail feeders, how about some ornamental iron? you can build your own jigs to make them with. i can also show you how to build a iron basket the old school way. you in south mississippi, maybe could hit up some of them oil and gas well companies to build a manifold or a poly pipe trailer.... call walt disney in orlando and ask em if ya'll can build another modified f-2 sign for em (that sign is a buggar! all aluminum mc-6 channel and many, many intricate copes and angles) or maybe a lumber/ pipe rack for a pick up truck....

oooo, oooo..... how about one of them chicken foot grabbers, ya know, looks like a mini shepherd's crook... a whiskey still, a real steel guitar (made one out of concrete once,, sounded like it was comin out of the north end of a south bound cow, and it was wicked heavy)

hmmm.... how about a 2 ball for a 3-point hitch... one down low for bumper pulled trailers, and one higher for goosenecks... can move trailers around real nice like...

an a-frame trolley, motorized wheel-barrow (complete with hydraulic dump) build a pipe fence on a 3 in 12 pitch (make em learn how to figure angles, cut fishmouths with a grinder or torch, and to learn some real world applique)

learn em how to run open root cellulose 6g pipe =)) (thats a feat that i love to show off on) build a dump trailer, bobcat bucket, add a fork for a backhoe front loader bucket... the list can go on and on, sir =))

Bluesman
09-01-2010, 07:02 AM
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hmmm.... how about a 2 ball for a 3-point hitch... , motorized wheel-barrow (complete with hydraulic dump) build a pipe fence on a 3 in 12 pitch (make em learn how to figure angles, cut fishmouths with a grinder or torch, and to learn some real world applique)

learn em how to run open root cellulose 6g pipe
We are working on the 2 ball for 3 pt. hitch thing... The motorized wheel-barrow <I would LOVE to see one of those>...

What exactly do you mean about a pipe fence on 3 in 12 pitch? You mean like on the slope of a hill or what? I always thought you would build a pipe fence to the contour of the land and the pitch would change as the contour changed and you would cut and fit accordingly.

I'm ignorant to the cellulose pipe thing too :(... I don't even know what cellulose pipe is. Sounds expensive if it is 6g though LOL... I know that is not what it meant but I couldn't help my self.

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I would like to know more about this ornamental iron thing and the iron basket. We have a tubing bender with dies for square stock and round, has a picket twister attachment as well. Have a press with on of those thingies from Shop Outfitter's that bends heavy iron, got two ring rollers to. Just don't know how to use all the stuff yet, but I'm trying to learn.

SICFabrications
09-01-2010, 07:13 AM
Google Image Result for http://www.tcerentals.com/Georgia%20Buggy.jpg (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tcerentals.com/Georgia%2520Buggy.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tcerentals.com/Concrete%2520Equipment.htm&h=1920&w=2560&sz=1377&tbnid=J0kIYBSXAsM4fM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgeorgia%2Bbuggy&zoom=1&hl=en&usg=__C8XOZjRbaxvnA2ebTd1-1-AyWyM=&sa=X&ei=cU1-TIWCHM2mnQfE-rjwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAw) <----- motorized wheel barrow, hyd dump...

yes, a 3 in 12 pitch.... i built 1600 foot of guard rail last year that goes across a bridge over the arkansas river.... every thing was on a pitch, even 1/4 in 12.... i learned alot, we pre-fabbed the railing in 20 foot sections... it was ALL 1 1/4 pipe with 1/2 round stock for pickets

open root pipe..... take 2 peices of pipe and butt weld em..... open root means to leave a little gap in between them before welding... cellulose = 5p or 6p rods (6010 or 7010) 6g= pipe joint sitting at a 45 degree angle, lemme find a pic

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Ascinder
11-08-2010, 05:34 PM
I know there is a nearby highschool whose metal students build a competitive rock/desert racer every year. They get donations and sponsors and compete with it then sell it off and build another the next year. I have also heard of highschools and community colleges building kitplanes for projects.

tjjolle
11-08-2010, 10:28 PM
Im pretty sure the millerwelds web site has some project ideas, obviously some are smaller and some larger, but last I checked it had really cool ideas. Im thinking students might enjoy making things like weightlifting equipment, go carts, or things they might use afterwards.

Bluesman
11-09-2010, 07:40 AM
We are finishing up on another utility trailer right now. 6 1/2' by 12' with side loading ramp and rear loading ramp. Has a 5200 lb axle and is built with 1/4" angle all the way around except for the top rail (3/16") and the tongue (3" Square Tubing)... Planning on raffling it off like we did the last one.

UnfinishedProjects
12-06-2010, 10:14 AM
Custom bicycle frames are a good project for kids. Teaches the fundamentals of metal fitment and working with tubing. Not to mention, you can build some pretty cool bikes on the cheap

Nick
03-04-2011, 12:21 AM
Definitely not flashy, but might be an easier sell to the school. Racks/carts for on premises use, desk for you, shelving, etc.

On the cheap end, why not have them throw together a coat hanger / wall rack to take home with some scroll work? Your advanced students can eat up time doing intricate additions while the slow but steady can still manage a basic form. Gives you the opportunity to do jigs, dies for scroll, tube bending, etc.

Best we ever had was very limited CNC lathe/mill work (which was held back horribly by average class ability. I believe there was a 2-3 week period dedicated to providing intricate scale drawings of a ruler along with proof you could use one.... :D).

Bluesman
03-04-2011, 01:00 PM
Custom bicycle frames are a good project for kids. Teaches the fundamentals of metal fitment and working with tubing. Not to mention, you can build some pretty cool bikes on the cheap
Is there a place with plans or something. We have a tubing bender, one of those floor mounted jobs and I would like to do this but have never tried anything like that. Any suggestions on how to get started?

Fastest1
03-06-2011, 05:11 PM
They are delicious all by themselves! Or Mix it with venison for tamales and or sausage.
You got me pegged :rolleyes: I guess I watched Back To The Future one time too many as a kid. What about some hog traps? We can eat those. I don't know if you have a problem with those where you live but in Texas we have feral hogs all over.